tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post7819701930580959107..comments2024-03-27T07:02:30.838+00:00Comments on A Wargaming Odyssey: Solving a Hexagonal DilemmaDavid Crookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-69896923266351869082019-11-15T09:06:27.055+00:002019-11-15T09:06:27.055+00:00Hi Norm,
Many thanks for the link which I will ta...Hi Norm,<br /><br />Many thanks for the link which I will take a look at later (the site is down for maintenance at the moment).<br /><br />Years ago I ironed a hex grid using RAFM transfers (I still have a pack of the 3 1/2" grid version) and you had to pin the sheets of tracing paper - it came in long strips - so that the hex material was in contact with the cloth. It took a lot of pins to hold the sheets in place and for the first cloth I did it worked like a charm. Sadly the second went horribly wrong - more or less for the same reason you mentioned - and it really put me off using it again.<br /><br />I plan to take this very slowly indeed....<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-7410817572308993362019-11-15T08:50:31.801+00:002019-11-15T08:50:31.801+00:00Hi Geordie,
As soon as the template arrives I wil...Hi Geordie,<br /><br />As soon as the template arrives I will trying it out. In theory it should help to eradicate the 'creeping distortion' effect but however I end up doing this I will need to be very careful and take it slowly.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-65039380873356836872019-11-14T23:31:29.940+00:002019-11-14T23:31:29.940+00:00Good idea.
here is a link (look at the 2nd photo ...Good idea.<br /><br />here is a link (look at the 2nd photo down) of how someone got their hexfield from using paper plates.<br /><br />LINK<br /><br />http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=512946<br /><br />I have attempted a few hexed surfaces, the further I would get into the hexfield, the more distortion I got, you only have to be a degree or two out on one and then a second etc and the accumulation means that by the time I was two thirds through, I had continual distortion. In that respect, just doing the dots and not the lines may be preferable.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-17641814752721353942019-11-14T21:16:18.501+00:002019-11-14T21:16:18.501+00:00Hmmm, interesting!Hmmm, interesting!Geordie an Exiled FoGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002743056274635657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-2286679192383742912019-11-14T15:59:48.517+00:002019-11-14T15:59:48.517+00:00Hi Steve J,
I was rather taken with the template ...Hi Steve J,<br /><br />I was rather taken with the template although the grid will still take a while to do as I need to be very careful! <br /><br />As soon as it arrives I can begin work on it.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-20860658187016220482019-11-14T15:51:58.873+00:002019-11-14T15:51:58.873+00:00That's a really neat idea! Looking forward to ...That's a really neat idea! Looking forward to seeing the finished mat.Steve J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12143308117853983963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-86154838739064467712019-11-14T15:18:20.947+00:002019-11-14T15:18:20.947+00:00Hi Bill,
That would certainly speed the process s...Hi Bill,<br /><br />That would certainly speed the process somewhat! I am looking to hex grid something with 2" hexes for naval and aerial games which would work well with your system. As the hexes I want for my playing areas to use with the 30mm figures are 4" across the flat sides I am thinking that using the larger template on a hex by hex basis may be a better option but I will experiment with both to see which works best.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-86106639550649025152019-11-14T15:06:57.130+00:002019-11-14T15:06:57.130+00:00The important part is the template. I just took a ...The important part is the template. I just took a picture of it, you can find it at http://www.velociengineer.net/?attachment_id=176 <br /><br />Having the sheet with a lot of hexes reduces the potential for errors cropping up, since Iām able to mark many hexes at once and I have more points to align the template against. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04113595852338673072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-63282317007691283902019-11-14T14:50:44.332+00:002019-11-14T14:50:44.332+00:00Hi Bill,
That is very effective looking and would...Hi Bill,<br /><br />That is very effective looking and would be easy to replicate freehand using the template to mark the angles. All I would then need to do would be to put an additional 'dot' halfway along the hexsides.<br /><br />Something to think about so many thanks for the link.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-44841235679928730112019-11-14T14:39:50.673+00:002019-11-14T14:39:50.673+00:00My solution to the hex problem is to use printed h...My solution to the hex problem is to use printed hex paper sheets from incompetech.com. I create a sheet of hexes the size I want, and print out 2 or 4 sheets. I glue these to a sheet of stencil card and use a hole punch to put holes at the verticesI. Then I lay it on my mat material and mark through the hopes with a paint pen. <br /><br />You can see the results of this here: https://www.velociengineer.net/?p=165Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04113595852338673072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-26697684800164923432019-11-14T13:27:48.052+00:002019-11-14T13:27:48.052+00:00Hi Nigel,
That is pretty much the idea I was thin...Hi Nigel,<br /><br />That is pretty much the idea I was thinking of.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-31676350177582036962019-11-14T13:27:01.826+00:002019-11-14T13:27:01.826+00:00Hi Nundanket,
I must confess that this is certain...Hi Nundanket,<br /><br />I must confess that this is certainly not an option I would thought of and sadly I have no quilting relatives that I could approach.<br /><br />Good luck with your sister!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-34701130782805177342019-11-14T13:25:25.265+00:002019-11-14T13:25:25.265+00:00Hi Mike,
the great hing about this template is th...Hi Mike,<br /><br />the great hing about this template is that it will avoid the issues you mentioned for a couple of reasons. To begin with the surface I am marking out is designed to lay flat so 'stretch' will not be an issue and also as the dots define the angles when I fill in the lines between adjacent hexes I will only have to draw one.<br /><br />That is the theory anyway!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-80350800498040345442019-11-14T13:21:48.728+00:002019-11-14T13:21:48.728+00:00Hi Bob,
To be honest I am thinking that whichever...Hi Bob,<br /><br />To be honest I am thinking that whichever way I opt to hex the mat it will be a long process but as you say, it will be worth it.<br /><br />Steady as she goes and all that!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-42707288280351761872019-11-14T13:20:25.975+00:002019-11-14T13:20:25.975+00:00Hi Trebian,
I was thinking about that as an optio...Hi Trebian,<br /><br />I was thinking about that as an option - especially for naval gaming mat. I will probably go with lined hexes though but who knows.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-37987698097632057432019-11-14T11:40:29.639+00:002019-11-14T11:40:29.639+00:00If you use tailor's chalk for a test run you c...If you use tailor's chalk for a test run you can start again if errors creep in, and then use a permanent marker once you're happy with it.Nigel Druryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07635742503102210394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-19108420123527746132019-11-14T10:55:33.375+00:002019-11-14T10:55:33.375+00:00Never thought of this. I would be very interested ...Never thought of this. I would be very interested to hear how it goes.<br /><br />Hmm! Who do I know does quilting? About time I paid my sister a. Isor šnundankethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895608927860103442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-70084820515612152019-11-14T09:57:10.289+00:002019-11-14T09:57:10.289+00:00I'll be interested to hear how it turns out. I...I'll be interested to hear how it turns out. I know from my wife's quilting efforts that you size the pieces as accurately as possible but that the real skill comes when sewing together and that this is where any earlier inaccuracy, unfortunate stretching of the material, or the like, is "lost".<br /><br />The danger with any "mark the next by setting the template from the previous" approach is that small errors accumulate. You know this of course so I've no doubt you have some plan to reign them in.<br /><br />I might try to get a set of those templates for my wife: currently she draws hexes by hand, cuts out the paper and pins it to the material, cuts the material a bit larger, folds over the material and tacks it to size. The template would make cutting the paper easier and one might be able to dispense with the paper entirely. I fear though that a request that she quilt me a hex gaming mat will not get a positive response.Mike Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231537324248937676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-53033783858540575022019-11-14T09:31:05.646+00:002019-11-14T09:31:05.646+00:00David,
I've tried this method, and it works. ...David,<br /><br />I've tried this method, and it works. It can be a long and boring process to use, but with time and care, you should end up with a hexed mat at a fraction of the cost of buying one.<br /><br />Good luck,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4472889370304077924.post-20304182855413532712019-11-14T09:10:54.899+00:002019-11-14T09:10:54.899+00:00Just use the dots. Don't bother with the lines...Just use the dots. Don't bother with the lines, at least at first. You can always put them in later if you need them.<br /><br />Trebianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221916804339000102noreply@blogger.com